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This is so annoying :( I have been checking wmr throughout the day and it had said the 31st, but now it says I may have entered my information incorrectly. So, now I cannot check it, but I have high hopes and big dreams that it's being updated. I know I have a DCN so that means I am in limbo. A few years ago I had to pay and I paid late, of course there was interest and penalties and excuses are not accepted. Too bad we can't charge the IRS interest and penalties :/
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Instant Tax Services who prepared my taxes just called me to advice that IRS had sent them email that due to software problem the earliest projected date for any DD will be Feb. 7. She said they had rep on phone with IRS at that moment to get a more exact date. I told her my WMR site says by 31Jan but she said don't count on it as they will not be releasing any deposits or checks for the time being. Please prove this to be wrong, if anyone receives any deposits 2morrow come back and update the rest of us as I am hoping that maybe some of us would be able to receive it since I read that some people has already received theirs Wed and Yesterday. Maybe a few more will go through that so called "glitch". According to tax preparer my return was sent thru new system. Boo!
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This is great information however I am not sure how true this is. I filed Taxslayer and I do not have a DCN number therefore according to your theory I would be in the new system....correct? Then why would I have the 31st generic message? If your theory is correct, then I should have already had a WILL deposit date. How could I possibly be in the old system if I wasn't issued a DCN number upon acceptance on 1/18?
Hi Michelle, I wanted to see if you happen to have gotten an update today? From what I am reading most of us have. My WMR still says processing but when I placed a call to the IRS they said my DD WILL be depoisted 2/1. I just wanted to check on you :)
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Thanks! Well it seems to me that the rest of us 1/31ster's should be up next to get a dd date for our refund since some has already gotten a dd date or gotten the refund already. are the rest of ours at the bottom of the pile getting smothered by the new returns coming in,which would explain why some that filed after us has gotten theirs already or has gotten an dd date. GO FIGURE!
I filed with Taxslayer and I don't have a DCN or an Submission Id. Wth is that I wonder????
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You look just like the lady I just seen on channel 2 news in Detroit?? Sorry if I'm wrong anywho I'm still getting the by 1/31 date IRS rep told me if there was no errors or offsets I should see something on the 3rd but who knows cause they have been lying alot
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And ALL of this is only speculation.
My return was accepted on the 17th, and according to your information into the new system (not the old) as I have a submission ID. However, I have seen posts try to state that submission ID means old and DCN means new and vice versa.
I have spoken to two IRS reps- not to inquire about my refund but to inquire about an issue that caused an error last year and wanting to make sure it had, in fact, been resolved and was not an issue again this year. One was very polite, one was very rude.
I had the "by" the 31st until this morning when it updated to a deposit on the 30th. In ALL prior years, I have received a "by" date that then updates to an actual deposit date. This is standard policy and not a "generic" message.
I know you have good intentions, but it really is NOT helpful to anyone when you are posting speculation and not fact.
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Michelle, I have a submission ID number,not a DCN. WMR 01/31/12. So it even people with Submission ID's have the general response of No Later than 01/31/12. I think the IRS was just overwhelmed with all the returns, and have a backlog. I have checked WMR every day message never change 01/31/12. Yesterday it took me to a new page, telling me please allow 3 weeks for processing. I said wait a minute, why did this change? So I called the teletax number it had also changed from 01/31/12 to still processing please allow up to 3 weeks. I checked WMR this morning, and it back to 01/31/12.
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My status jumped from 1/31 to 2/21 this morning, and I used TT and I show on my form DCN: BLANK no number, but I was confused because people were saying it was the new and old system, so does this mean I am in the old system? I read an article earlier that the IRS implemented a new fraud detection system and that is the true reason for the delays and those held back more than a week are due to problems they found in our specific taxes and are pending further investigation, but I still can't get a confirmation that is true????Anyone else know???
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I believe you received some misguided information from the IRS rep.
There are several systems the IRS uses to fully process an e-filed return. The initial system screens the return for errors that would prevent processing, such as incorrect or previously used SSNs, incorrect names, etc. The IRS fully implemented a new system called Modernized e-File this year. This is the system that uses "ID" instead of the "DCN." One of its advantages is that it reduces the time to accept a return from 24-48 hours to almost immediately. There was a glich in this system around the 17th which required some to have to resubmit (I was one) to the old system. That problem has been fixed.
According to the news release from the IRS earlier today, the reason many refunds are being delayed is due to the need to "fine-tune" the fraud detection program used to detect questionable returns. I suspect the program was too sensitive and was blocking too many refunds. Understandably, the IRS doesn't want to give too many details as to how the system works as that could tip the crooks off.
Once the return passes through the fraud program, it is processed by the new system known as CADE 2, which unlike the old system, can post transactions daily and release refunds in as little as 4 business days.
There's no conspiracy on the part of the IRS. I can tell you for certain from when I was a telephone collection representative at the IRS that it often took quite a while to pinpoint a systems problem. This is not surprising given the vast number of inter-related systems the IRS uses. It's also a fact that the typical phone rep doesn't usually have a comprehensive knowledge of how all the systems work. I was still learning things after several years on the job. It's enough to be able to know how YOUR job works, let alone someone else's,
Some reps want to be helpful and offer information that may just be speculation. They are frustrated with not being able to always provide a concrete answer. An example is when someone inquires about when they will get the refund. Unless they see the code on their computer screen that firmly indicates the refund date, they state the generic "three weeks." That's precisely what their manual instructs them to do.
I'm confident these problems will be fixed soon and refunds will start flowing.
